Te means to... Here is something which you must have as a Buddhist. Look, it's Teisho. So without something, you know, something real, we cannot talk about it. If you read my book, this book, you know, after memorizing it, that is not Teisho. So Teisho is something which comes out from inside, from bottom of heart.

[01:05]

That is Deisho. So actually, you know, it... Because I must use words, so I must follow logic, you know, and philosophical philosophical, special, technical terms. But sometimes, ignoring those, you know, special terms, we can directly speak about it. That is daisho. Sometimes it may not be words. This is Deisho, you know.

[02:08]

Something to talk about which is not possible to talk about is Deisho. Excuse me, I cannot explain so well. your lecture on the Sandokai is supposed to give us understanding, you say. Then you say that we can't understand this bright side unless we understand the dark side, unless we have good Zazen. Yeah. Is lecture just skillful means? I mean, just because We talked a lot. Why I say so, you know, you will stick to my words, you know. So I, after giving you some lecture, I, you know, take it from you. That is, you know, just intellectual things.

[03:14]

So you should forget what I said. But you should, you know, sense the real meaning of my words. It should be in that way, you know. Whether we are Buddhist or not. But Buddhists know that if we stick to words, we will be enslaved by words, and we will understand just a little part of it. So, it is better, after suggesting something, it is better to cut off his finger.

[04:20]

my finger, you know, after pointing at something. When you are interested in something, it may be better to cut off my finger, so that you will not be attached to this finger anymore. And then you will be interested in something which I pointed out. That is words, you know. You explain, you know, how to cook something by book. But actually, what you do is to cut vegetables and to put salt in it and boil it. That is actually what you do. When you forget all about our cookbook, you know, you can be a... you will be a good cook.

[05:29]

As long as you are watching cookbook. If you try to understand, you know, what is written, it may take time. It is better to, you know, to study it, you know. by seeing someone who is actually doing it. What is the best way? Teisho is something to... to... to give something directly. But usually, you know, you your attitude of listening to it, to, you know, to think about it, and whether it is good or bad, you know, and wondering what is he speaking about, or wondering whether it is acceptable for you or not, you know.

[06:44]

And if it is good, I will accept it. If it is not good, I will not accept it. That is extra. You don't need to be, you know, so careful. If you just listen to it, and you don't need to try to understand it even. If you don't, and understand it, it's okay. If you understand it, it is better. That's all. So there should be no special intention of listening to it. Just to listen to it. That is how you listen to teacher. It is different from to study something. But as you are, you know, very logical, your mind works very logically, I have to follow some logic, that's all.

[08:08]

Because you are logical, I have to be logical. That's all. If you are not logical, you know, I can say whatever I like. I can sing a song even. You try that sometimes? Not singing a song, but being a little bit not logical. Yeah. Do you think I'm too logical? I'd like to hear you sing a song. Okay. I wish I could do it. I've got a nice song.

[09:16]

Okay, let's sing. Right now. Hare Rama, Hare Rama, Rama Rama, Hare Hare, Hare Rama, Hare Rama, Rama Rama, Hare Hare, Hare Rama, Hare Rama, Rama Rama, Hare Hare, DOR-DOR-DOR-DOR-DOR-DOR-DOR-DOR DOR-DOR-DOR-DOR-DOR-DOR-DOR [...] DOR-DOR-DOR-DOR-DOR-DOR-DOR-DOR [...] DOR-DOR-DOR-

[10:33]

I vow to put an end to them. The Dharma is our compass. I vow to invest in them. The Buddha's way is unsurpassable.

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